PKE Transmitter

[yellowc4]

Hello everyone, i am new to this board. I have a question about the transmitter that comes with the 95 C4 vette. I have been looking for one becasue mine broke and so far everyone has told me that they discontinued them, and they are not making them anymore.(including the dealer) I just wanted to see if any of you guys know where i could get one? Well i apperciate the help. Thanks

[Y2KFRC]

Saw one for a 93 but I don't know if it will work on a 95. Do a search on ebay put in Corvette pke. One came up, the person wants $9.99 + shipping. Do you have a part # or #'s. maybe Kotze knows a place or a parts house like GM Parts Direct that would have it.

[MKOTZE]

Originally posted by yellowc4
Hello everyone, i am new to this board. I have a question about the transmitter that comes with the 95 C4 vette. I have been looking for one becasue mine broke and so far everyone has told me that they discontinued them, and they are not making them anymore.(including the dealer) I just wanted to see if any of you guys know where i could get one? Well i apperciate the help. Thanks Hello YellowC4, Welcome to our forum. Now about this transmitter, it is still available from GM. There is one for a hartop part#88960923, $142.00. GMPARTSDIRECT.COM-$85.20. Then there is one for a convertible part#10282930,$143.68. GMPARTSDIRECT.COM-$81.90. I hope this helps.:chevy: MKOTZE

[yellowc4]

Well guys this is a good start. I emailed GMpartsdirect because i went to the local dealer and they ordered me one but it was different then the original one and it didnt even work. So when i took it back they told me that they discontinued the original one so i emailed GMpartsdirect and told them what happened. I guess i am going to have wait and see what they say. I am thinking about that one on ebay but i am not sure if it will work with my vette but tomorrow i am going to find out. Well thanks a lot.

[Y2KFRC]

Try this also CONTEMPORARY CORVETTE. They are a Corvette jinkyard in eastern Pa. 1-800-367-8388 or www.contemporarycorvette.com .

[fatherlarry]

Originally posted by yellowc4
Well guys this is a good start. I emailed GMpartsdirect because i went to the local dealer and they ordered me one but it was different then the original one and it didnt even work. So when i took it back they told me that they discontinued the original one so i emailed GMpartsdirect and told them what happened. I guess i am going to have wait and see what they say. I am thinking about that one on ebay but i am not sure if it will work with my vette but tomorrow i am going to find out. Well thanks a lot.

YellowC4,

I hope efforts for looking for the transmitter has been successful. I was in Outten Chevrolet today and gave the part numbers that Mike gave you to the parts manager. The parts manager told me that he is still able to get that transmitter. If you haven't already found one, you might want to give them a try. Being you are a member here you will get a discount. Just mention your a member of FatherLarrys Corvette Shop.

Sometimes when you get one for $5-$10, you don't know if it was in the washing machine or not. I'm sure you're aware of this, but I'll mention it anyway. There is a procedure that is in your owners manual stating how to reset each transmitter. Sometimes you have to stand away from the car 20 feet, you may have to make sure that you're not holding both transmitters in your hand. On my '99 I had a similar problem. I thought it was the battery, then I thought it was the transmitter. I finally realized that the other transmitter had to be a certain distance away in order to reset the one at hand. Also, I had to stand 5-10 feet away and make sure the radio wasn't turned on, even though the car was off. I also had to depress the two buttons at the same time. It then worked. Try various procedures and make sure to look in your owners manual.
.:banghead:

I rather put new syncros in a six speed than fool around with this technology today. Well good luck. Let us know how you make out.

[yellowc4]

Thanks for all your help. I am going to call Outten Chevorlet tomorrow and see what they say. I wonder if they have one in stock? I e-mailed GMdirectparts and they said its on national backorder. But they said they do carry that part. Well i will let u know what happens. Thanks again.

[POLO 94]

I just bought one from ebay and tried to program it but when it gets to the part to turn key to off and PKE will flash....wel it goes out with key off. Any Ideas?:confused:

[MKOTZE]

Originally posted by POLO 94
I just bought one from ebay and tried to program it but when it gets to the part to turn key to off and PKE will flash....wel it goes out with key off. Any Ideas?:confused: Hello POLO 94, The first thing I would do is to replace the battery in the transmitter. In this particular passive remote it is always transmitting if the remote is moving, even if it is in your pocket. Basically it is always on unless it is motionless. So change the battery first. Now I think you are having difficulty getting the car into the programming mode. There are a few unusual things that must be done to get the car into the programming mode. First, ALL remotes must be at least 20 feet away from the car while you are initiating the programming,even if they are not programed. The radio must be off and when you turn the ignition off you must leave the key in the ignition switch. If you remove it you will need to start over. I am assuming you are using the information in your owner's manual. In step five with the ignition in lock position and key still in the ignition the PKE lamp should now start to flash. If it does not start to flash then there is a problem in your system not the remote. If this is the case then you will need to have it diagnosed by the Technician. Assuming you get it to flash you then have two minutes to finish the rest of the programing or it will automatically throw you out of the programming mode. You will need to bring one remote at a time into range of the car so it recognizes the remote. The PKE light will flash once for the first, twice for the next and so on. Before bring the second remote into range you must remove the first remote. GOOD LUCK! :chevy: MKOTZE

[timmb001]

My 1996 does not flash at all. What are the steps the Technician would do to diagnose a non responsive PKE unit? I have access to the GM scan tool and am willing to give it a shot. If I can find out what to do.

Thank you.

[MKOTZE]

Originally posted by timmb001
My 1996 does not flash at all. What are the steps the Technician would do to diagnose a non responsive PKE unit? I have access to the GM scan tool and am willing to give it a shot. If I can find out what to do.

Thank you. Hello Timmb001, Welcome to the forum. Since you have access to the GM scan tool ,It would also be beneficial if you have access to the GM service manual. This would give you the numerous charts that would be needed by the technician. Before I can effectively help I need to ask a few questions. First do you have any remotes that work with the system? If not Did the system shut down all of a sudden? Did you check the batteries on the remote? I'm assuming that you have been using the program mode initiation from the owners manual,correct? When you normally turn the key on Does the PKE light illuminate? The GM monitor will only tell us if there are any codes set in the central control module. As the monitor cannot communicate with the PKE module. If you can get access to the GM service manual it will be very beneficial as it will be difficult, not impossible, to give step by step direction over the forum. Let me know the answers to the questions and if you got a manual. Good Luck :chevy: MKOTZE

[timmb001]

I have ordered the manuals.
No Remotes work now. Both did. Both quit at the same time on the same day.
System became non operational. Batts in both remotes are new. FOBS have been checked with another known good PKE in another vette and work fine.
PKE light does NOT illuminate when key truned on. It used to - however it no longer does. I will let you know as soon as the books arrive.

Thank you again.:bowdown:

Captain Burks

[MKOTZE]

Hello Timmb001, Let me know if you need any help deciphering the charts you will need to follow. Good Luck.:chevy: MKOTZE

[timmb001]

still waiting for books to get here....:smoke:

But yes I would like it a great deal if you would tell me where to begin the diagnosis. :nod:

Capt. Burks

[MKOTZE]

Originally posted by timmb001
still waiting for books to get here....:smoke:

But yes I would like it a great deal if you would tell me where to begin the diagnosis. :nod:

Capt. Burks Okay Captain, Let me know when you get the books and I'll get you started. :chevy: MKOTZE

[timmb001]

:luxhello:

Mike - The big red books are here. I am reading section 9K and it is looking like I will have to use a test light on the PKE Reciever. According to what the book says - I need to remove upper I/P Trim. Is that the Speedo or the A/C DIC area? I am reading on page 9K-17 step 2.

[MKOTZE]

MKOTZEOriginally posted by timmb001
:luxhello:

Mike - The big red books are here. I am reading section 9K and it is looking like I will have to use a test light on the PKE Reciever. According to what the book says - I need to remove upper I/P Trim. Is that the Speedo or the A/C DIC area? I am reading on page 9K-17 step 2. Hello Timmb001, Okay let me check the book. Okay, What you need to do is remove the entire upper instrument trim pad. It is found in 8C-26. This is quite involved but it is the only way to access the module. The module is located near the contols for the driver information center. Check page 9K-27. Let me know how things are going and if you need anymore help!!Good Luck.:chevy: MKOTZE

[timmb001]

I will dive into it this weekend. Sat is as soon as i will have time to tear it down. I will let you know what I find. I have a feeling i will still have questions.

Thank you again,

:bowdown:

Capt. Burks

[MKOTZE]

Okay Capt., Let me know what you find. Good Luck!:chevy: MKOTZE

[timmb001]

Well -

I was looking over testing the PKE unit with a test light as shown in the book last evening. I have a couple of dumb questions but still need to ask. Following the flow of things according to symptoms. I need to check the PKE Receiver. :cool: So far so good!

Okay - So I take apart the console, and center I/P, remover whatever is needed to gain access to PKE unit. Now should I test it in place, remove it, test it with it connected to the wiring harness, leave it in place but unplug wires....what is the RIGHT way to do this? Will my results be the same? :confused:

Now for the BIG question - Is there ANY chance of launching the Air Bag while doing this? I am just sure i dont want that to happen. :LOL:

[timmb001]

Still have not managed to find time to dive into this yet. (I need a longer weekend I think.) Should be able to get to it some time arounfd the May 17th. I will post my findings once I get into it in hopes that it will assist others.

[Y2KFRC]

Good luck:nod:

[MKOTZE]

Hello Capt. Sorry I haven't gotten back to you sooner. I've been working on a 74,81,82,and an 89 corvette. I see that you're not going to get to work on the car until the 17th of this month. I want to look at the schematic for the PKE system and I will get back to you before the 17th. Thanks for your patience. :chevy: MKOTZE

[MKOTZE]

Originally posted by timmb001
Well -

I was looking over testing the PKE unit with a test light as shown in the book last evening. I have a couple of dumb questions but still need to ask. Following the flow of things according to symptoms. I need to check the PKE Receiver. :cool: So far so good!

Okay - So I take apart the console, and center I/P, remover whatever is needed to gain access to PKE unit. Now should I test it in place, remove it, test it with it connected to the wiring harness, leave it in place but unplug wires....what is the RIGHT way to do this? Will my results be the same? :confused:

Now for the BIG question - Is there ANY chance of launching the Air Bag while doing this? I am just sure i dont want that to happen. :LOL: Hello Timmb001, Let's see. No you cannot set off the airbag by testing the keyless entry, as thet are two separate systems. However, I would recommend removing the airbag fuse #34 as an extra security measure. It does not matter if the pke unit is mounted in place or removed but in the first step it needs to be tested with it connected to the wiring harness. When the manual says back probe a connector it means to test the circuit with it connected.However, you may find it easier to pull the pke unit out to gain easier access. Let me know how everything goes when you get started. I'll make sure I check the forum. Good Luck.:chevy: MKOTZE

[timmb001]

Hello again - I was out of town last week and will dive into this tonight. I will be sure to pull fuse #34 and test w unit connected and w/o. How long would you estimate this should take? I just wanted tyo be sure i allow plenty of time.

Thank you again.

Captain Burks

[MKOTZE]

Originally posted by timmb001
Hello again - I was out of town last week and will dive into this tonight. I will be sure to pull fuse #34 and test w unit connected and w/o. How long would you estimate this should take? I just wanted tyo be sure i allow plenty of time.

Thank you again.

Captain Burks Hello Timmb001, The most involved thing time wise is dismantleing the dash. This should take about an hour. The actual testing should only take about 30 minutes. Good Luck.:chevy: MKOTZE

[timmb001]

Last night was the night. I removed the dash pad and found the PKE unit. tested it as per the big red book.

Here are my results.

PKE orange to any ground - test light works
PKE black to another known orange - test light works
PKE Orange to PKE Black - test light works most of the time.

What I mean by that is I must really PUSH on the probe to get it to it to work. I am wondering if I should just get another PKE reciever and install it and see what happens. I know that is not the best solution price wise - but how else can I check it.

Any ideas?

For the record - dash pad is easy to get out in about 30 min. and i had NO leftover parts....:LOL:

[MKOTZE]

Originally posted by timmb001
Last night was the night. I removed the dash pad and found the PKE unit. tested it as per the big red book.

Here are my results.

PKE orange to any ground - test light works
PKE black to another known orange - test light works
PKE Orange to PKE Black - test light works most of the time.

What I mean by that is I must really PUSH on the probe to get it to it to work. I am wondering if I should just get another PKE reciever and install it and see what happens. I know that is not the best solution price wise - but how else can I check it.

Any ideas?

For the record - dash pad is easy to get out in about 30 min. and i had NO leftover parts....:LOL: Hey Timmb001, Okay the test results are okay. Now the next thing is to look on pages 9k-20 and 9k-21. Start with step 2 using a digital volt ohm meter to back probe(with connector connected to module) terminal B6 and check for a 5 volt reading. Then continue to follow the chart. Let me know how it turns out or if you need more information. Good Luck.:chevy: MKOTZE