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fatherlarry
09-08-2002, 11:22 AM
Is the Corvette Hardtop REALLY cheaper!
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We’ve heard it said, time and time again that the Corvette Hardtop is the cheaper model Corvette, in the lineup with the coupe and convertible. Maybe in comparison to the convertible, which is significantly higher in price than both, but the price difference between the coupe and hardtop is minimal.

The 1999 Corvette coupe listed for $39,171 and the Corvette Hardtop for $38,777. That’s only a difference of $394. What’s $394 when you’re spending 10’s of thousands? Could this be GM’s ingenious way of marketing an innovative style that the public may not be receptive to? The styling of the Hardtop which results in a Vette that is 80 lbs lighter, 12% stiffer, better in handling, performance and structurally surely can’t be considered bargain basement quality in any way, shape or form. So then where does this reasoning come from?

Naturally, the coupe and convertible costs more to manufacture due to extras. It will cost more for a rear hatch panel to hold the glass on the coupe, extra hardware plus removable top. Taking that into consideration, from the consumers’ side, the hardtop may actually be overpriced considering it was only $394 less than the coupe, and cost less to manufacture.

So is it really “cheaper”? Or did GM create the illusion of a cheaper Vette to the public for marketing purposes? Without hurting their sales on the Coupe and Convertible, they were able to test the waters with a new style Vette, which was a performance model. Hence the guinea pig for what they already had planned and were testing….. the Z06.

Of course the Coupe and Convertible were higher in cost to produce, but if the public had demanded more hardtops, the hardtop price would have risen dramatically. Then two years later along comes the Z06. Basically it is the same car as the 1999-2000 Hardtop with a few modifications and a price tag of over $10K more. Now that the public has accepted the hardtop style, GM invests a few more dollars to make 10’s of thousands more.

The Hardtop is a true Corvette that can compete in performance. Remember the more accessories, the more weight, the more to break down and more aggravation. So it seems we have a nice lean machine, which handles better, is stiffer, faster and structurally stronger, and it…..what…errr..costs less? Not really! It’s just an illusion, but the Hardtop is far from an illusion. It’s the real thing. Ask anyone that has driven one. And please, let’s not confuse “cheaper less in price” with “cheaper in quality.”

Jim Helm
04-09-2003, 09:57 AM
Fatherlarry, here is a slightly different perspective about the FRC. I'm one of those guys who don't get around here to often, but I own a 2000 FRC, and as a precursor to the Z06, I think the FRC is not only the best looking of the available body styles, but the best value of all the styles. That is, of course, my opinion with no disrespect to those who think differently.

For almost the same car one year later GM charged about $9000 more for a Z06 vs. the 2000 FFC. Yes, the Z06 is a better version with 40 more HP ('01 LS6 vs th '00 LS1), lighter titanium exhaust system, different 6 sp gear ratios, slightly stiffer revised suspensions, better non-runflat tires, different and uglyer wheels, standard improved active handeling and HUD, rear brake air scoops, tire fix kit, and all the badges and screens, but the Z06 lost the rear hatch cover in the trunk, and the tire pressure monitoring capability. Cost wise, most of these "changes" are a wash (tires, wheels, trans ratios, suspension) with the extra standard options costing more, as well as the engine improvements and exhaust system. So GM probably increased the cost to make a 2001 Z06 buy about $1000 over a 2000 FRC, and charged $9000 more for it. What a brilliant marketing move!

Yes the 1999-2000 FRC is a cheap model, but it is also the greatest value model that Corvette has made in the past 7 model years. Let's face it, they are all great cars regardless of the body style or model year.:nod:

fatherlarry
04-09-2003, 08:45 PM
Hi Jim,

Very well said. Basically, the same as what I said. The reason I traded my hardtop for the Z is because I figured if I had to mod it out to get to 405 hp and do the upgrade in suspension, tires and rims etc, it would have cost me a nice piece of change, even if I did the work myself. It seems as though reality has set in and the prices of the Z06 have come down, especially with the economy the way it stands. I took advantage of the situation and the right price. If it didn't work out so well, I wouldn't have bought the Z. The only thing I don't like on the Z is the climate control opposed to the manual control I had on the hardtop. Also, the seats are not as comfortable as the hardtop seats, but overall the Z is definitely a different ride. Maybe not the '01, but definitely the '02, in which the oil problem has been corrected as well as the clutch problem. The gearing in the tranny is a little higher and the engine can withstand a little more pounding than the standard C5. So I have the best of both worlds. The best styling and in the color I have always admired. My opinion on the wheels, is that I always felt the Z06 wheels are outstanding.

As far as the rear compartment on the hardtop, I changed the stock cover over to the one that Eckler had that has the door. This is especially good for those that have the six cd changer in the back. On the Z I added the compartment cover.

The '02 Z06 is an upgrade from the hardtop and now that the prices are on target it makes more sense to me. The Z06 will always be a signature car and always a few bucks more than the hardtop, but the '99-'00 hardtop will always be recognized to be the first fixed roof coupe with a trunk in Corvette history. It was the birth of the Z06 and a very special Vette.

Thanks for posting. Please post more. We would love to hear your views and expertise.:nod: :smoke: